1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:02,640 NARRATOR: In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:06,610 the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups, 3 00:00:06,670 --> 00:00:08,480 the police who investigate crime 4 00:00:08,540 --> 00:00:11,350 and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:11,410 --> 00:00:13,040 These are their stories. 6 00:00:14,110 --> 00:00:15,820 (SPEAKING HINDI) 7 00:00:16,650 --> 00:00:17,820 (HORNS HONKING) MAN: Come on, let's go! 8 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,790 Near corner, far corner? 9 00:00:20,750 --> 00:00:23,200 Okay, I said near corner or far... 10 00:00:24,650 --> 00:00:25,830 Oh. my... 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,460 CSU says it's a single stab wound to the guy's abdomen. 12 00:00:29,530 --> 00:00:30,530 We know who he is? 13 00:00:30,590 --> 00:00:33,870 No wallet, no ID. But judging how he's dressed, 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,600 I'd say he ain't a homeboy. 15 00:00:39,230 --> 00:00:41,370 I want a shot of the laundry mark. 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:42,540 MAN: Right. 17 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:46,810 Rite Aid receipt from a couple of days ago. 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,790 2211, Broadway. 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:49,980 It's near 96th Street. 20 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:51,520 What do you think? Stick and pick? 21 00:00:51,580 --> 00:00:52,720 Either that, or he figured out 22 00:00:52,780 --> 00:00:54,350 a hell of a way to beat a cab fare. 23 00:00:54,420 --> 00:00:56,230 What about the cabbie? OFFICER: Harish Singh. 24 00:00:56,290 --> 00:00:58,230 Says the pickup was on 42nd near Lex 25 00:00:58,290 --> 00:01:00,600 and that another guy helped the old man in. 26 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:02,190 Thinks that it was that guy who was the one 27 00:01:02,260 --> 00:01:03,630 who gave him the address where to go. 28 00:01:03,690 --> 00:01:05,400 Where's he? Where else? 29 00:01:05,630 --> 00:01:07,270 Talking on the cell phone. 30 00:01:07,330 --> 00:01:08,360 Thanks. 31 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:10,430 (SPEAKING HINDI) 32 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,240 Say goodbye, Mr. Singh. 33 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:14,010 I was just trying to get another vehicle. 34 00:01:14,070 --> 00:01:15,170 My whole shift is lost. 35 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,050 Yeah, well, it turns out it wasn't his day either. 36 00:01:17,110 --> 00:01:19,520 Tell us about the guy who helped the old man. 37 00:01:19,580 --> 00:01:21,050 He was black. 38 00:01:22,180 --> 00:01:24,590 Young, wearing a green baseball cap. 39 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:26,850 Some... Some blue running clothes. 40 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,260 He say anything about your passenger? 41 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:31,130 No. Just said to go to 125th and Amsterdam. 42 00:01:31,190 --> 00:01:33,100 Did he touch the door handle? 43 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,190 I don't know. 44 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:35,290 The whole ride up here, you didn't hear 45 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,230 your passenger say anything? 46 00:01:37,290 --> 00:01:39,500 I was talking to my broker. 47 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,660 All right, give us your home number. 48 00:01:41,730 --> 00:01:43,570 And don't forget your cell phone. 49 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:47,940 Guy's bleeding to death in his back seat, he's making day trades. 50 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,950 Gotta run with the bull. 51 00:02:39,790 --> 00:02:42,740 The Rite Aid computer says the receipt was for toilet paper, 52 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:45,600 toothpaste and some cough medicine. Paid for in cash. 53 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:47,640 Purchase like that, the guy probably lives nearby. 54 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:49,440 Big neighborhood. 55 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:51,240 Dry cleaner's mark on his shirt tail. 56 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:53,870 There's gotta be 20, 30 dry cleaners in that area. 57 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:55,710 The guy's wearing a Paul Stuart suit. 58 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:57,980 I'm betting he goes to the best. 59 00:02:58,410 --> 00:03:02,580 Well, canvass the cleaners, and work your way out from the Rite Aid. 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,090 I'm not sure. But this guy don't look so good. 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,850 How about this? You recognize that? 62 00:03:09,920 --> 00:03:12,360 Yes. That's ours. 63 00:03:12,420 --> 00:03:14,830 Last four digit customer phone number. 64 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:17,730 Have you got a name to go with the number? 65 00:03:19,260 --> 00:03:22,710 Mr. Grimaldi lived alone, about five, six years now. 66 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,600 His wife. Real sweet lady. 67 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:27,080 She died a few years back. 68 00:03:27,140 --> 00:03:29,080 What she was doing with the guy is anybody's guess. 69 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:30,170 Why do you say that? 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,510 Grimaldi was tough. Real old school. 71 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:34,610 Not a guy with too many nice words to say. 72 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,280 And parting with a dollar wasn't his thing either. 73 00:03:36,340 --> 00:03:37,380 He would have fought back. 74 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:39,150 That's probably what got him killed. 75 00:03:39,210 --> 00:03:40,520 Any other next of kin? 76 00:03:40,580 --> 00:03:41,620 Son and daughter, 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,790 but they don't come around much since the mother died. 78 00:03:43,850 --> 00:03:45,630 He lives in Philly with his wife and kid, I think. 79 00:03:45,690 --> 00:03:47,030 And her I'm not too sure about. 80 00:03:47,090 --> 00:03:49,400 See if you can get their numbers from the managing agent. 81 00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:50,490 Sure. 82 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,900 Any idea what he did for a living? 83 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,170 Retired. But I think he was an insurance salesman once. 84 00:03:55,230 --> 00:03:56,900 He's in good hands now. 85 00:03:56,970 --> 00:04:00,070 Hey, cabbie said he picked him up on 42nd and Lex, right? 86 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:02,710 Yeah. Bank account on Lexington Avenue. 87 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:07,380 Mr. Grimaldi was a customer here for over 30 years. 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,120 He used to come in all the time. 89 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:10,620 Only worked a few blocks from here. 90 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,850 Where was that? 91 00:04:11,910 --> 00:04:14,020 All-Atlantic Insurance. 92 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,580 It's a shame. 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,230 He was a real character. 94 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:18,660 In what way? 95 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,290 He's what you'd call an old-fashioned American success story. 96 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:23,770 Immigrated from Italy. 97 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:26,310 Worked 40 years for the same company. 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,100 A real dying breed. 99 00:04:28,260 --> 00:04:31,370 Do know if maybe he cashed a check that day? 100 00:04:31,430 --> 00:04:34,410 Or maybe somebody saw him with a large amount of money? 101 00:04:34,470 --> 00:04:37,140 I checked our security tapes after you called. 102 00:04:37,210 --> 00:04:39,520 Mr. Grimaldi didn't use a teller that day. 103 00:04:39,570 --> 00:04:41,350 He went straight to the vault area. 104 00:04:41,410 --> 00:04:42,720 Safe deposit box. 105 00:04:42,780 --> 00:04:45,120 He opened one about 10 years ago. 106 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Doesn't seem to have used it much. 107 00:04:49,150 --> 00:04:50,990 Any chance we could take a look inside? 108 00:04:51,650 --> 00:04:53,720 You'd just be wasting your time. 109 00:04:53,790 --> 00:04:56,400 He closed it that day. It's empty. 110 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,700 Here are some shots from the bank's video tape. 111 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,260 This is him coming in. 112 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:02,400 Briefcase. 113 00:05:02,460 --> 00:05:04,910 Then 14 minutes later, he leaves. 114 00:05:04,970 --> 00:05:06,780 Still has his briefcase. 115 00:05:06,870 --> 00:05:09,440 Now, here's one from the ATM outside. 116 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:11,680 He's still alone. 117 00:05:12,510 --> 00:05:14,040 Not for long. 118 00:05:14,410 --> 00:05:15,980 Our good Samaritan. 119 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,790 Latent just faxed over the list of prints 120 00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:19,120 they lifted from the cab door. 121 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:20,290 BRISCOE: What'd they get? 122 00:05:20,350 --> 00:05:21,380 Nineteen partials. 123 00:05:21,450 --> 00:05:22,890 Anything interesting? 124 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:24,520 Two forefingers and a thumb. 125 00:05:24,590 --> 00:05:26,290 "Doug Panero. Male, white." 126 00:05:26,350 --> 00:05:28,200 "Nineteen. Drug sale." 127 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:30,260 "Anthony Weathers. Male, black." 128 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,640 " Forty-two. Turnstile jump" 129 00:05:32,690 --> 00:05:36,040 "And Roland Dell. Male black. Twenty-four." 130 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,110 "On parole for knifepoint robbery." 131 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:42,050 Talk to his P.O. And let's pick him up 132 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:44,710 before he decides to help anyone else. 133 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,610 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 134 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,750 (POLICE RADIO CHATTERING) 135 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:54,320 Hey. How you doing? Is your mom and dad here? 136 00:05:54,380 --> 00:05:55,520 Teddy, who is it? 137 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:57,120 New York City detectives. 138 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:58,260 What's this about? 139 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,060 Is Roland Dell here? Get back in there, Teddy. 140 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,600 We're just sitting down to dinner. 141 00:06:01,660 --> 00:06:03,600 Dinner's gonna have to wait. 142 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:05,370 Police! Freeze! 143 00:06:05,890 --> 00:06:07,200 ED: Freeze! 144 00:06:09,500 --> 00:06:11,940 Rock, paper, scissors, gun. 145 00:06:15,070 --> 00:06:17,680 We've got your prints on the cab door. 146 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:20,220 On a city cab? Big deal. 147 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:22,310 ED: We also have this. 148 00:06:22,380 --> 00:06:23,450 Who's that? 149 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:25,650 You. Right down to the green ball cap 150 00:06:25,710 --> 00:06:27,280 we found in your closet. 151 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:28,730 Oh, you think this lid's green? 152 00:06:28,780 --> 00:06:31,350 'Cause I'd be willing to bet that my Legal Aid 153 00:06:31,420 --> 00:06:32,990 says it could be almost any color. 154 00:06:33,050 --> 00:06:36,230 If it isn't you, why'd you go up-tempo when you saw us, Roland? 155 00:06:36,460 --> 00:06:40,130 What would you do you saw a brother come after you with a gun? 156 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Man, you guys got nothing. 157 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:43,770 'Cause if you did, you wouldn't be looking at me 158 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:45,470 for my statement. 159 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:50,910 Yeah, I think you better get me my Legal Aid. 160 00:06:50,970 --> 00:06:53,980 Yeah. He did so good for you last time, right? 161 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,660 Anything on the apartment search? 162 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,320 No briefcase, no knife. 163 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:06,960 Bring in some of the witnesses from the ATM machines 164 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:08,520 and see if someone can put him at the scene. 165 00:07:08,590 --> 00:07:09,860 You got it. 166 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:11,560 I hear you went in hot pursuit today. 167 00:07:11,630 --> 00:07:13,470 Yeah. He tried to climb out the window. 168 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,040 I'm surprised you didn't push him. 169 00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:17,100 Me, too. 170 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,010 (DOOR CLOSES) 171 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:25,180 VAN BUREN: Just tell us if you see anyone who looks familiar. 172 00:07:25,740 --> 00:07:27,720 It's hard to say. 173 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,750 I think number four. 174 00:07:32,250 --> 00:07:34,750 And where do you recognize him from? 175 00:07:35,950 --> 00:07:38,260 I think he was the man I saw helping 176 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,530 the older man get into the cab. 177 00:07:40,590 --> 00:07:42,070 Are you sure? 178 00:07:44,490 --> 00:07:47,200 Best I can say is I think so. 179 00:07:47,500 --> 00:07:49,770 Okay. Thank you, Mrs. Drummond. 180 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,200 I think my client should be released immediately. 181 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:57,910 That's for the D.A. handling the case. 182 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,380 What case? 183 00:08:02,380 --> 00:08:05,220 His lawyer's right. I can't indict on a "think so." 184 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,820 Well, what about the prints and the ATM photos? 185 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,260 All good circumstantial evidence, 186 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,590 if we had an ID. (CELL PHONE RINGING) 187 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:11,650 Green. 188 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,290 So what? You just gonna kick this guy loose? 189 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,460 Lennie, I called his parole officer. 190 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,730 She dropped a violation on him based on your arrest. 191 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:20,860 He is not going anywhere. 192 00:08:20,930 --> 00:08:24,570 That was the M.E. Roland Dell may only be half our problem. 193 00:08:25,030 --> 00:08:28,540 Grimaldi had a six-inch stab wound to his abdomen. 194 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:32,210 He also had a bullet wound under his left armpit. 195 00:08:32,270 --> 00:08:34,180 This guy was stabbed and shot? 196 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,880 New York's a tough town. 197 00:08:35,940 --> 00:08:37,650 How'd CSU miss it? 198 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:39,190 There was no exit wound. 199 00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:42,060 And the entrance was hidden under the hair in the armpit. 200 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,960 I only found it when IX-rayed the body. 201 00:08:44,020 --> 00:08:45,260 Well, could this guy have been shot 202 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,360 and made it to the cab? 203 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:47,590 Hey, Reagan never knew he was shot 204 00:08:47,660 --> 00:08:49,830 till he got to Bethesda Naval. 205 00:08:50,090 --> 00:08:52,470 So what killed him? The knife or the gun? 206 00:08:52,530 --> 00:08:54,060 Take your pick. 207 00:08:54,130 --> 00:08:56,200 Roland Dell stabbed a dead man. 208 00:08:56,260 --> 00:08:58,010 Couldn't even get that right. 209 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,610 Video has him leaving the bank at 2:34. 210 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:06,350 Here, he is passing the ATM at 2:37. 211 00:09:06,410 --> 00:09:08,120 Three minutes to walk 15 feet? 212 00:09:08,180 --> 00:09:10,520 Maybe he stopped to tie his shoe. 213 00:09:10,580 --> 00:09:12,920 Briefcase is in his right hand now. 214 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:15,480 Well, it was in his left hand when he left the bank. 215 00:09:15,550 --> 00:09:17,190 Maybe he switched when he got shot. 216 00:09:17,250 --> 00:09:18,790 What do we have from ballistics? 217 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:20,330 They're having trouble IDing the round. 218 00:09:20,390 --> 00:09:21,560 Seems like a lot of folks 219 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:22,730 were waiting for this man 220 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:24,270 to come out of that bank. 221 00:09:24,330 --> 00:09:27,140 Wonder what they knew about the deposit box that we don't. 222 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,900 Grimaldi's kids just got in to ID the body. 223 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,940 Maybe they have an idea. 224 00:09:35,470 --> 00:09:38,080 Our father is shot and stabbed on one of the busiest streets 225 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:40,550 in Manhattan, and no one even noticed? 226 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,750 The cabbie was on a cell phone. 227 00:09:42,810 --> 00:09:45,020 Plus, midtown and it was raining. 228 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,650 But you don't believe this was random? 229 00:09:47,350 --> 00:09:49,660 We think the perpetrators were after whatever 230 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,530 your father kept in that safe deposit box. 231 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:56,570 I didn't even know he had a safe deposit box. Did you? 232 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,730 No. 233 00:09:57,830 --> 00:10:00,270 Well, was he the kind of person that kept a lot of cash on him? 234 00:10:00,330 --> 00:10:02,640 Our father never discussed his finances. 235 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:04,400 He lived on a pension. 236 00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:06,070 Is there any kind of inheritance? 237 00:10:06,130 --> 00:10:08,410 Maybe from your mother? Some stocks? 238 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:09,950 Anything somebody might have known about? 239 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,380 I don't think so. 240 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,010 Was there anyone he was close to? 241 00:10:13,070 --> 00:10:15,110 JORDAN: Most of our father's friends have passed away. 242 00:10:15,180 --> 00:10:16,180 What about Gail? 243 00:10:16,340 --> 00:10:18,450 Gail? Gail Bartlet. 244 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,580 Since our mom died, she's been Dad's friend. 245 00:10:22,650 --> 00:10:24,990 He was with her before Mom died. 246 00:10:25,450 --> 00:10:27,930 Jordan said that? I'm surprised. 247 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:31,100 Their mother was very ill for several years before she died, 248 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,070 and Peter and I became friends. 249 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:35,130 His kids were under the impression 250 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,110 that he might have confided in you. 251 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,580 Peter rarely spoke to either of his children. 252 00:10:39,630 --> 00:10:41,050 He wasn't what you would call 253 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:43,210 an intimate type of man, Detective. 254 00:10:43,270 --> 00:10:47,340 He... He rarely confided in anyone, even me. 255 00:10:47,710 --> 00:10:53,520 But there was a certain charm about Peter, an energy. 256 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,220 Uh, can you think of any reason 257 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,260 why somebody would have wanted to hurt him? 258 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,960 A few weeks ago, actually, 259 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,000 the doorbell rang. 260 00:11:05,260 --> 00:11:08,870 Peter answered it and I heard him yelling. 261 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:10,800 Did you see who he was yelling at? 262 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:14,370 No. But when he came back into the room, I... 263 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,710 He was very angry, and I asked him what was wrong, 264 00:11:17,770 --> 00:11:19,620 and he... he said the doorman 265 00:11:19,670 --> 00:11:21,950 had let someone up he wasn't supposed to. 266 00:11:22,410 --> 00:11:23,980 He say who? No. 267 00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:28,020 But he was very upset about it, for a few days, actually. 268 00:11:28,950 --> 00:11:30,260 A witness says you let someone up 269 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,320 to the Grimaldi place a few weeks ago. 270 00:11:32,390 --> 00:11:33,920 Somebody he got pretty upset about. 271 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:35,590 I never let anybody up there. I told him that. 272 00:11:35,660 --> 00:11:36,730 You think it did me any good? 273 00:11:36,790 --> 00:11:38,200 Well, you do know who that person was? 274 00:11:38,260 --> 00:11:41,330 If it's the time I'm thinking about, it was a process server. 275 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Grimaldi had legal problems? 276 00:11:42,930 --> 00:11:43,970 Thanks. 277 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:46,310 I guess. This guy came around a few times. 278 00:11:46,370 --> 00:11:48,280 He must've finally snuck up while I was doing something else. 279 00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:49,880 You know who he worked for? 280 00:11:49,940 --> 00:11:53,890 All I know is Grimaldi tore me a new one for letting the guy in. 281 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,150 I ran Grimaldi's name through the court's computer. 282 00:11:57,210 --> 00:11:59,490 There were no cases with his name in a caption, 283 00:11:59,550 --> 00:12:01,490 so he isn't a plaintiff or a defendant. 284 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:02,720 The kids and the girlfriend 285 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:05,060 didn't know anything about a lawsuit either. 286 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,230 He could have been involved in litigation in some other way. 287 00:12:08,290 --> 00:12:09,960 He worked for an insurance company, right? 288 00:12:10,020 --> 00:12:12,000 He's been retired for over 10 years. 289 00:12:12,060 --> 00:12:13,660 MAN: Here you go. I have an Aunt Opal. 290 00:12:13,730 --> 00:12:14,970 Slipped in a supermarket once. 291 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:17,600 Took her 12 years to settle her case. 292 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:24,680 I was surprised when my assistant gave me your message. 293 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:27,910 Peter Grimaldi was a kind of dinosaur around here. 294 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:29,980 Worked for the company for over 40 years. 295 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,390 We were wondering if he was part 296 00:12:31,450 --> 00:12:33,290 of any lawsuit involving All-Atlantic. 297 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,230 I had litigation pull our claims. 298 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,260 I'm afraid there's nothing here. 299 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,660 Which is not surprising, given Peter sold mostly life insurance. 300 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,790 Then he had a broker's license, right? 301 00:12:43,890 --> 00:12:45,460 Of course. Why? 302 00:12:45,860 --> 00:12:48,670 Any chance he was still doing business on the side? 303 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:51,310 Not with us. 304 00:12:52,170 --> 00:12:56,010 Peter Grimaldi's license to sell insurance lapsed 11 years ago. 305 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:58,740 The last thing I see is a letter from someone 306 00:12:58,810 --> 00:13:00,840 requesting a business address for him, 307 00:13:00,980 --> 00:13:02,250 and that was three years ago. 308 00:13:02,310 --> 00:13:03,380 A letter about what? 309 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,080 Oh, it's pretty hard to follow. 310 00:13:05,150 --> 00:13:06,520 She claimed this guy Grimaldi 311 00:13:06,580 --> 00:13:08,750 sold her family some insurance a long time ago, 312 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:10,090 then refused to pay. 313 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:11,630 But you can see right there, 314 00:13:11,690 --> 00:13:14,330 she was talking about a guy named Pietro Grimaldi, 315 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,160 not Peter. 316 00:13:16,220 --> 00:13:18,730 Pietro is Peter in Italian. 317 00:13:20,090 --> 00:13:21,540 What happened to her complaint? 318 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:22,770 Nothing. 319 00:13:22,830 --> 00:13:25,870 Like I said, we weren't sure she had the right guy. 320 00:13:25,930 --> 00:13:28,140 Dora Wolkoff. Bronx, New York. 321 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,150 Ciao. That means goodbye. 322 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:36,050 Well, if you came to arrest her, you're a year too late. 323 00:13:36,110 --> 00:13:38,060 Dora passed last December. 324 00:13:38,110 --> 00:13:39,850 Happens all the time around here. 325 00:13:39,910 --> 00:13:41,420 Yeah, it happens where we work, too. 326 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,290 She ever mention any legal problems she was having? 327 00:13:44,350 --> 00:13:46,090 Like what sort of problems? 328 00:13:46,150 --> 00:13:48,660 You know, like, maybe insurance problems. 329 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,730 You guys are here about Dora's insurance? 330 00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:52,470 Actually, we're investigating the death 331 00:13:52,530 --> 00:13:54,770 of a man named Peter Grimaldi. 332 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,170 Pietro Grimaldi? 333 00:13:57,230 --> 00:13:58,570 You mean to tell me he was a real person? 334 00:13:59,070 --> 00:14:00,100 What do you know about him? 335 00:14:00,170 --> 00:14:02,440 Dora said this Pietro Grimaldi 336 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,140 sold her father some life insurance. 337 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:06,810 Used to say she was gonna walk out of here a rich lady. 338 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:08,410 So, he was real, huh? 339 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,790 I guess what comes around goes around, though. 340 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:12,120 Why do you say that? 341 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,650 Well, Dora said this guy wouldn't pay. 342 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,720 Said he'd done this thing to a bunch of other people. 343 00:14:16,780 --> 00:14:18,560 You know, back in the old country. 344 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:20,960 ED: She ever mention any other names? 345 00:14:21,020 --> 00:14:23,060 (SIGHS) I don't remember. 346 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,800 But I bet her daughter would know. 347 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:27,000 Evie used to write letters for them all the time. 348 00:14:27,630 --> 00:14:29,470 So, you guys finally going to get him 349 00:14:29,530 --> 00:14:31,810 to pay the money he owes me, or what? 350 00:14:31,870 --> 00:14:33,780 Pietro Grimaldi was found murdered 351 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,680 a few days ago, Miss Wolkoff. 352 00:14:35,740 --> 00:14:37,550 (LAUGHS) 353 00:14:38,540 --> 00:14:39,950 Was he rich? 354 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,850 Why do you ask that? 355 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:44,820 Pietro Grimaldi was an insurance salesman, Detective. 356 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,550 During the war, he traveled through Poland and Czechoslovakia 357 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:50,790 selling life insurance policies to Jewish families. 358 00:14:50,850 --> 00:14:52,130 Told them their money would be safe. 359 00:14:52,190 --> 00:14:56,430 Said he worked for an Italian company, Federali Insurance. 360 00:14:56,490 --> 00:14:58,470 Isn't that right, Hymie? 361 00:14:58,530 --> 00:15:00,300 Yeah. (LAUGHS) 362 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,100 He sold a policy to Mr. Radzanower's family, too. 363 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,910 And there's others. 364 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Then the war ends, he refused to pay. 365 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,950 Pietro Grimaldi took my grandfather's last dollar 366 00:15:13,540 --> 00:15:15,890 and left my mother with nothing. 367 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,820 Wolkoff, Radzanower, Getzler, Ribet, Frank. 368 00:15:21,780 --> 00:15:24,730 All Holocaust survivors or the families of Holocaust victims 369 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:28,360 who purchased life insurance policies from Pietro Grimaldi. 370 00:15:28,420 --> 00:15:30,530 All of them stiffed by him. 371 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,740 And all with a motive to kill him. 372 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,030 How many? 373 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:36,940 VAN BUREN: Daughter gave us 59 names. 374 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,980 But she says there could be thousands. 375 00:15:39,030 --> 00:15:42,950 Apparently Grimaldi used the Nazis as a marketing tool, 376 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:46,050 while figuring he'd never have to pay off on the policies. 377 00:15:46,110 --> 00:15:48,140 I have an appointment with the Italian Consulate. 378 00:15:48,210 --> 00:15:50,850 We'll see what they know about Federali Insurance. 379 00:15:51,610 --> 00:15:53,490 Just when you thought that there weren't any more ways 380 00:15:53,550 --> 00:15:56,650 to violate these people, an insurance scam. 381 00:16:00,490 --> 00:16:03,160 The Italian government subpoenaed Grimaldi. 382 00:16:03,220 --> 00:16:05,500 We recently started an investigation into allegations 383 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,800 that certain Italian insurance companies 384 00:16:07,860 --> 00:16:12,110 sold life insurance policies to Jewish families in Eastern Europe 385 00:16:12,170 --> 00:16:14,870 during the war and then refused to pay. 386 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:16,070 Refused why? 387 00:16:16,300 --> 00:16:17,980 The companies claim there is no documentation 388 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,880 the policies were ever issued. 389 00:16:19,940 --> 00:16:22,080 And now most of these companies don't even exist. 390 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:24,950 What about the company Grimaldi worked for in Italy, 391 00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:26,080 Federali Insurance? 392 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:27,320 Bankrupt. 393 00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:30,730 We traced over 1,100 policies to Federali Insurance. 394 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,460 But without Peter Grimaldi's testimony, 395 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,830 I'm afraid the truth may never be known. 396 00:16:35,890 --> 00:16:36,990 Sounds like a pretty good motive 397 00:16:37,060 --> 00:16:38,730 to make sure he didn't testify. 398 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:39,860 Yes. 399 00:16:39,930 --> 00:16:42,500 Could I get copies of your files on Federali? 400 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,740 I'd like for one of our forensic accountants to examine them. 401 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,510 Aren't we just a little out of our jurisdiction? 402 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:50,950 Maybe not. 403 00:16:51,810 --> 00:16:54,340 When Federali Insurance filed for bankruptcy, 404 00:16:54,410 --> 00:16:55,980 they listed their outstanding policies. 405 00:16:56,940 --> 00:16:59,150 Anyone from Evelyn Wolkoff's list? 406 00:16:59,210 --> 00:17:02,960 No. But there were several American policy holders. 407 00:17:05,020 --> 00:17:08,230 Who goes to Italy to buy life insurance during a war? 408 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:09,600 No one. 409 00:17:09,660 --> 00:17:11,640 The policies were purchased at a brokerage here 410 00:17:11,690 --> 00:17:13,100 in New York. 411 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,040 A brokerage in New York sold Federali's policies? 412 00:17:17,830 --> 00:17:19,680 Guess who owned the brokerage. 413 00:17:23,100 --> 00:17:24,410 All-Atlantic. 414 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:26,910 Because guess who owned Federali. 415 00:17:28,580 --> 00:17:30,060 All-Atlantic. 416 00:17:31,180 --> 00:17:33,020 I believe I've already told your two detectives 417 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,720 everything we knew about Mr. Grimaldi. 418 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:38,030 Strange you never mentioned the fact 419 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:40,030 All-Atlantic owned the Italian company 420 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:42,160 Grimaldi worked for during the war. 421 00:17:42,220 --> 00:17:44,070 I don't see how that's relevant. 422 00:17:44,130 --> 00:17:46,440 As a subsidiary, All-Atlantic is liable 423 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:48,600 for any policy written by Federali. 424 00:17:48,830 --> 00:17:51,070 JACK: You see the relevance now, Mr. Bresler? 425 00:17:51,230 --> 00:17:54,110 STEWART: We have never hidden from our obligations. 426 00:17:54,170 --> 00:17:57,170 If you have any specific policy numbers, 427 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,510 we'd be happy to check our records. 428 00:17:59,710 --> 00:18:01,450 I think you know we don't. 429 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,820 We're wondering if Grimaldi did. 430 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:10,090 Look, it's possible life insurance was sold 431 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:13,500 to someone who became a victim of the war. 432 00:18:13,820 --> 00:18:15,390 But as chairman of this company, 433 00:18:15,460 --> 00:18:18,230 I can assure you we have absolutely no knowledge 434 00:18:18,290 --> 00:18:20,500 of any such policy. 435 00:18:20,830 --> 00:18:22,740 Were you aware that the Italian government 436 00:18:23,260 --> 00:18:26,400 had just subpoenaed Peter Grimaldi shortly before he was killed? 437 00:18:26,470 --> 00:18:27,970 STEWART: Pure politics. 438 00:18:28,070 --> 00:18:29,340 We went after their banks. 439 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,010 Now they'd like a go at us. 440 00:18:31,610 --> 00:18:33,050 SO YOU were aware. 441 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:34,980 I don't think Mr. Stewart meant to imply 442 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,180 that he had any specific knowledge of the subpoena. 443 00:18:38,250 --> 00:18:40,660 Only that he was aware of their investigation. 444 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,590 Exactly so. 445 00:18:42,650 --> 00:18:47,930 Look, I sympathize with the frustration of someone 446 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:50,830 who believes that he was cheated by circumstance, 447 00:18:50,890 --> 00:18:55,600 but I can't just turn this company into a deep pocket. 448 00:18:55,660 --> 00:19:00,110 We are required to verify a policy's existence before we can pay. 449 00:19:00,170 --> 00:19:02,480 And unfortunately, most of Federali's files 450 00:19:02,540 --> 00:19:05,180 disappeared when the countries they were kept in 451 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,240 were taken over by the communists. 452 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:11,350 So, at this point, it would be totally irresponsible of us to pay. 453 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,960 You think the company my father worked for is behind his murder? 454 00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:21,670 JACK: Just before his death, your father was subpoenaed by the Italian government 455 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:26,230 to give testimony about certain insurance policies he sold during the war. 456 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:28,470 Testimony that might have cost 457 00:19:28,530 --> 00:19:31,480 All-Atlantic hundreds of millions of dollars. 458 00:19:32,470 --> 00:19:33,840 Did your father ever tell you 459 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:35,940 about his work during the war? 460 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:38,710 Just that he was an insurance salesman. 461 00:19:38,770 --> 00:19:41,880 But did he ever tell you who he sold insurance to 462 00:19:41,940 --> 00:19:44,320 or how he came to work for All-Atlantic? 463 00:19:44,380 --> 00:19:47,720 What are you saying? Who did my father sell insurance to? 464 00:19:49,420 --> 00:19:50,790 Holocaust victims. 465 00:19:55,190 --> 00:19:56,500 He kept a book. 466 00:19:58,330 --> 00:19:59,860 DONNA: Jordan? 467 00:20:02,060 --> 00:20:05,530 It was about 10 years ago, when he retired, he showed it to me. 468 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,710 It had names, dates, different numbers. 469 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,780 It was in my father's handwriting. 470 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,940 Why didn't you ever tell me? 471 00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:15,210 JACK: Why did he show it to you? 472 00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:17,850 He said it might be worth a lot of money one day, 473 00:20:17,910 --> 00:20:20,980 and he wanted me to know about it, that's all. 474 00:20:21,050 --> 00:20:24,330 It wasn't something I really wanted to think about. 475 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:26,290 Do you know what happened to that book? 476 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,660 No. 477 00:20:31,930 --> 00:20:34,030 It seems Grimaldi kept a handwritten record 478 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,630 of the policies he sold in Eastern Europe. A book. 479 00:20:36,700 --> 00:20:39,010 We had the police search his apartment. Nothing came up. 480 00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:42,710 His son says Grimaldi showed him the book about 10 years ago. 481 00:20:42,770 --> 00:20:45,440 The same time he opened the deposit box. 482 00:20:45,670 --> 00:20:47,880 Who told Roland Dell it was there? 483 00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:49,940 Dell's not talking to us. 484 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,820 Find out who talked to him. 485 00:20:55,780 --> 00:20:57,660 Briscoe's report says Dell claimed 486 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,430 he had a job working for his brother-in-law. 487 00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:00,830 Doing what? 488 00:21:00,890 --> 00:21:03,840 Brother-in-law's working for a company called Burton Security. 489 00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:07,030 His parole officer said you got him a job. 490 00:21:07,130 --> 00:21:09,670 I never spoke with his parole officer. 491 00:21:09,730 --> 00:21:12,180 Your brother-in-law's facing a murder charge, Mr. Hollis. 492 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:13,410 If you know something about that, 493 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:16,880 you could easily find yourself facing charges as well. 494 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,440 I passed his name along. To who? 495 00:21:20,510 --> 00:21:21,610 Donald Burton. 496 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,050 The owner? 497 00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:24,780 What sort of company is this? 498 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:27,190 We supply security to businesses. 499 00:21:27,250 --> 00:21:29,560 So why pass Roland's name along? 500 00:21:29,850 --> 00:21:31,420 A few weeks back, Burton comes to me, 501 00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:33,690 says he needs somebody with street smarts. 502 00:21:33,750 --> 00:21:36,290 Somebody who can keep his mouth shut. 503 00:21:36,620 --> 00:21:38,570 Knows all about Roland. 504 00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:41,600 Look, I got a family to feed, 505 00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:45,110 but I didn't know he was going to rob nobody, I swear. 506 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:48,740 Man gave me a job, so what? 507 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:52,210 It's a race to the D.A.'s office, Mr. Dell. 508 00:21:52,270 --> 00:21:54,510 The one who flips fastest wins. 509 00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:56,220 How long do you think it's going to be 510 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,120 before Donald Burton tells us you robbed that guy on your own? 511 00:22:04,550 --> 00:22:07,060 So what happens if he tells you what you want to know? 512 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,100 I'm prepared to offer 10 years on the homicide. 513 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,630 I'll also recommend his outstanding parole violation 514 00:22:13,690 --> 00:22:14,970 run concurrent with that sentence. 515 00:22:15,030 --> 00:22:16,240 That's three years for free. 516 00:22:23,470 --> 00:22:24,810 Yeah, all right. 517 00:22:25,770 --> 00:22:26,770 Um... 518 00:22:28,940 --> 00:22:31,950 I met up with Reggie's boss, Burton, 519 00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:36,090 and he tells me he wants me to rob this old man. 520 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:39,860 Gives me the 411 on the when and the where. 521 00:22:40,450 --> 00:22:42,200 How about the what? 522 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,270 I was just supposed to take a book, that's all I know. 523 00:22:46,330 --> 00:22:47,970 So why'd you stab him? 524 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,210 Man, once I snatched the case, the old man, 525 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:53,250 he grabs my jacket, he won't let go, 526 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:55,280 so I did what I needed to. 527 00:22:56,340 --> 00:22:57,510 Who shot him? 528 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Who shot who? 529 00:22:59,470 --> 00:23:01,920 CARMICHAEL: The man you stabbed was also shot. 530 00:23:01,980 --> 00:23:03,080 What? 531 00:23:03,210 --> 00:23:05,490 I might make that parole recommendation 532 00:23:05,550 --> 00:23:08,120 with a little more enthusiasm if I knew the truth. 533 00:23:08,180 --> 00:23:12,490 Look, I don't know nothing about him being shot, and that is the truth. 534 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:15,160 Ask Burton if you don't believe me. 535 00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:16,330 He was there, too. 536 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:18,730 He was watching the whole thing. 537 00:23:18,990 --> 00:23:22,300 Look, so I hire a couple of questionable characters once in awhile. 538 00:23:22,360 --> 00:23:23,500 Big deal. 539 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,980 You want to walk around a warehouse 540 00:23:25,030 --> 00:23:26,940 in the South Bronx at 3:00 a.m.? 541 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,140 We're not talking about the South Bronx, Mr. Burton. 542 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,310 We're talking about midtown Manhattan. 543 00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:33,550 Roland Dell gave a full statement. 544 00:23:33,610 --> 00:23:35,310 We've also subpoenaed your bank records, 545 00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:38,850 so we know you've done work for All-Atlantic Insurance. 546 00:23:39,850 --> 00:23:41,690 JACK: What about it, Mr. Burton? 547 00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:43,130 Oh, my God. 548 00:23:43,550 --> 00:23:45,660 What's on the table? 549 00:23:46,050 --> 00:23:48,030 JACK: Ten years. Same as Dell. 550 00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:49,830 GARCIA: No. 551 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,100 He gave you us, we can give you more. 552 00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:55,510 More to give, more to get. 553 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,040 What'd you have in mind, Counselor? 554 00:23:58,800 --> 00:23:59,870 Five. 555 00:23:59,930 --> 00:24:01,710 I'll consider seven. 556 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Alan Bresler, from All-Atlantic Insurance, 557 00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:13,890 he called me and told me he had a security problem. 558 00:24:13,950 --> 00:24:15,590 Security problem? 559 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:18,960 He's a lawyer. That's the way he put it. 560 00:24:19,790 --> 00:24:22,730 Said this guy Grimaldi used to work for them. 561 00:24:22,990 --> 00:24:25,940 Told me he had a book with a list of policy numbers. 562 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,060 He tried to sell it to them, 563 00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:30,540 but Hamilton Stewart wouldn't buy. 564 00:24:32,930 --> 00:24:34,070 Where's the book now? 565 00:24:34,130 --> 00:24:35,940 I gave the briefcase to Bresler. 566 00:24:36,070 --> 00:24:37,170 Who was the shooter? 567 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:40,110 You telling me Grimaldi was shot? 568 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,380 There's the autopsy report. 569 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:47,320 Wait. 570 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,390 It had to be. 571 00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:51,730 Had to be what? 572 00:24:52,590 --> 00:24:54,930 I was sitting on the bank across the street. 573 00:24:54,990 --> 00:24:58,030 When Grimaldi came out, I gave Dell the signal. 574 00:24:58,090 --> 00:24:59,830 Only soon as I did, 575 00:25:00,060 --> 00:25:02,300 Grimaldi starts up a conversation with this guy. 576 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:03,570 Describe him. 577 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:07,140 Uh, white. Six foot. 578 00:25:07,940 --> 00:25:10,310 Thirty-five, forty. Black hair. 579 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,250 What else did you see? 580 00:25:13,610 --> 00:25:15,590 Looked like they were arguing. 581 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,880 That's when he must have shot him. 582 00:25:17,950 --> 00:25:20,190 And then the old man walks away 583 00:25:20,250 --> 00:25:22,090 and Dell does his thing. 584 00:25:25,390 --> 00:25:26,830 We believe him? Doesn't make sense, 585 00:25:26,890 --> 00:25:28,730 he wouldn't give up the shooter. (DOOR OPENS) 586 00:25:28,790 --> 00:25:30,740 Ballistics report on Grimaldi. 587 00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:33,900 The bullet was a 9 mm manufactured in Italy. 588 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,640 FBI lab determined it was fired from a 1934 Italian GAR. 589 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,370 Family heirloom. 590 00:25:40,430 --> 00:25:42,910 Grimaldi's son registered a '34 GAR 591 00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:45,350 in Pennsylvania, 15 years ago. 592 00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:50,480 Is your brother here? 593 00:25:50,540 --> 00:25:51,780 Jordan. 594 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,590 Jordan Grimaldi, you're under arrest 595 00:25:54,650 --> 00:25:56,090 for the murder of Peter Grimaldi. 596 00:25:56,150 --> 00:25:57,360 Jordan, what's going on? 597 00:25:57,420 --> 00:25:59,020 Put your hands behind your back. 598 00:25:59,090 --> 00:26:00,430 DONNA: Jordan? 599 00:26:00,490 --> 00:26:02,330 Oh, my God, no! What's going on? 600 00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:05,060 It's okay. It's okay, Donna. It's gonna be all right. 601 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:11,970 Burton told us Grimaldi tried to sell the book. 602 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,270 Maybe his son thought he could cut a better deal. 603 00:26:15,370 --> 00:26:17,350 Why tell us about the book in the first place? 604 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,110 It doesn't matter. 605 00:26:19,310 --> 00:26:21,010 We still have two homicides 606 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,990 and one body to go around. 607 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,110 The problem is, if we go after the son for the murder, 608 00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:28,460 we just about guarantee reasonable doubt for Bresler and Stewart. 609 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,760 We go after those two, the boy gets a walk. 610 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:35,500 There's a third option. 611 00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:38,130 Go after the son for the murder 612 00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:42,070 and Bresler and Stewart for grand larceny. 613 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:45,070 Since when did you become a defense attorney? 614 00:26:45,130 --> 00:26:47,770 Grimaldi was robbed to prevent those people 615 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,010 from collecting on their insurance policies. 616 00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:54,140 Every policy would constitute a separate count. 617 00:26:54,510 --> 00:26:56,110 How many counts we talking about? 618 00:26:56,180 --> 00:26:58,120 Over a thousand. That we know of. 619 00:26:59,210 --> 00:27:02,680 They'll need a calculator or two to figure out the sentence. 620 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:09,230 Your Honor, People are amending their complaint, 621 00:27:09,290 --> 00:27:10,600 dismissing the homicide counts 622 00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:12,360 and adding the charge of Grand Larceny. 623 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,860 1,136 counts. Is that number correct, Miss Carmichael? 624 00:27:17,130 --> 00:27:19,370 As per the Italian Consulate, it is, Your Honor. 625 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,310 Theft of insurance policy numbers? 626 00:27:21,370 --> 00:27:25,080 Judge, those policies were sold more than 50 years ago. 627 00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:27,310 Peter Grimaldi's robbery and murder 628 00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:29,220 takes care of the statute of limitations. 629 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:33,350 I agree. But I won't remand these defendants on a larceny charge. 630 00:27:33,410 --> 00:27:35,550 Bail is set at 100,000 each. 631 00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:36,820 (GAVEL POUNDS) 632 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:41,520 Figured you might pull a stunt like this. 633 00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:42,690 Motion to dismiss. 634 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,330 Without the book, you've got nothing. 635 00:27:44,390 --> 00:27:45,600 "Jordan Grimaldi." 636 00:27:45,660 --> 00:27:47,830 Defendant is charged with first degree murder. 637 00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:49,900 Except for him, of course. 638 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:54,840 Mr. Gold is right. 639 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:56,680 Without the book, you have no proof sufficient 640 00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:57,740 for a conviction. 641 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,480 But we do for an indictment, Your Honor. 642 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:02,020 It's an exercise in futility, Your Honor. 643 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,080 They can't produce that book. 644 00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:06,890 Do you know something we don't, Mr. Gold? 645 00:28:07,150 --> 00:28:09,350 I'll let the trial go forward, Mr. McCoy. 646 00:28:09,420 --> 00:28:13,230 But you better have the goods at the end of the People's case. 647 00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:16,230 (SIGHS) 648 00:28:16,290 --> 00:28:18,740 If they're smart, the book's already in the shredder. 649 00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:21,710 Maybe. But we still have the next best thing. 650 00:28:25,030 --> 00:28:27,270 Was it the money, Mr. Grimaldi? 651 00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:33,050 Is that why you killed your father? 652 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:35,750 Haven't you done enough to my brother? 653 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:37,580 JACK: I think your brother 654 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:42,660 was in serious trouble long before we got there. 655 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,330 What do you know about me? Jordan, don't talk. 656 00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:49,330 I never wanted the money. 657 00:28:49,390 --> 00:28:50,560 That was blood money. 658 00:28:50,620 --> 00:28:53,700 Then why didn't you tell someone about the book? 659 00:28:57,970 --> 00:29:00,070 It must have been difficult learning about your father. 660 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:01,840 You don't have to answer. 661 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,380 I think he does, Counselor. 662 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,510 I think he needs to answer. 663 00:29:07,110 --> 00:29:09,210 My father was responsible for his own death. 664 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Jordan, please listen to the lawyer. 665 00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:12,420 They can't prove anything. 666 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720 You're the only one, other than your father, 667 00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:16,920 that's ever seen what's inside that book. 668 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,470 Without your testimony, these men will walk. 669 00:29:22,060 --> 00:29:23,660 If that happens, I promise, 670 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,600 your brother will do enough time for all of them. 671 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:28,110 What's your offer? 672 00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:31,910 Nothing. Until he takes the stand. 673 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:34,870 Afterwards, I'll be willing to listen. 674 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,270 You're asking him to testify without a plea bargain? 675 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:40,550 I won't inquire about the shooting. 676 00:29:40,610 --> 00:29:43,920 If the defense does, he can take the Fifth Amendment. 677 00:29:45,810 --> 00:29:47,720 I'm offering you the chance 678 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:50,390 to do what you failed to do that day. 679 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,730 JACK: You're originally from Poland, 680 00:29:58,790 --> 00:30:00,770 is that right, Mr. Radzanower? 681 00:30:00,830 --> 00:30:03,100 From Budzanov. A little town. 682 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,840 And you knew a man named Pietro Grimaldi? 683 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:07,400 I knew him, yes. 684 00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:09,710 Tell us how, if you would, sir. 685 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080 It was 1939. 686 00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:17,720 The last time we were all together as a family. 687 00:30:18,980 --> 00:30:23,050 The Germans just moved into Poland, 688 00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:27,400 and things became very difficult. 689 00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:29,970 Difficult? For the Jews. 690 00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:34,240 My father owned a small trucking company. 691 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,400 He came to work one day 692 00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:40,270 to find all his trucks burned 693 00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:43,610 and the windows of our garage broken. 694 00:30:45,270 --> 00:30:48,220 Unfortunately, most of the Poles 695 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,350 didn't need much encouragement to hate us. 696 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,690 That night, Grimaldi showed up. 697 00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:59,960 And he talked to your father? 698 00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:01,860 He told my father 699 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,500 the Jews are being killed in Germany. 700 00:31:06,290 --> 00:31:09,670 It's just a matter of time for all of us. 701 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,310 Then he showed my father a picture 702 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:19,620 of women and children in a ditch, shot. 703 00:31:21,140 --> 00:31:27,180 Then he offered to sell my father insurance. 704 00:31:28,550 --> 00:31:30,120 Of course, he bought. 705 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,130 JACK: And you're sure this was Pietro Grimaldi? 706 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:36,960 My father made us memorize Grimaldi's name, 707 00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:39,400 and he told us where to go 708 00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:42,330 if something should happen. 709 00:31:43,330 --> 00:31:45,900 And what happened to your family, Mr. Radzanower? 710 00:31:46,270 --> 00:31:47,870 Hitler happened. 711 00:31:51,970 --> 00:31:54,150 And when it was over, 712 00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:57,950 I could only find my sister. 713 00:31:59,380 --> 00:32:01,050 She was very sick. 714 00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:09,460 I was 17, and we were alone. 715 00:32:10,390 --> 00:32:12,300 JACK: And what did you do? 716 00:32:12,390 --> 00:32:15,460 We walked. Over a year. 717 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,000 I carried her most of the time. 718 00:32:19,930 --> 00:32:21,000 To Italy. 719 00:32:21,070 --> 00:32:23,740 To where my father told me Grimaldi should be. 720 00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:25,780 And did you find him? 721 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,580 Yes. I asked him for our money. 722 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,590 I told him without it my sister would die. 723 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,120 And what did he say? 724 00:32:33,180 --> 00:32:35,960 He said he doesn't remember my father. 725 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:39,550 He has no record of any policy. 726 00:32:40,450 --> 00:32:43,770 And without a death certificate, 727 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:47,240 I don't have even proof that my father is dead. 728 00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:53,740 The Nazis did not give any death certificates. 729 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:59,140 I have only one from Italy. 730 00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:01,840 For my sister. 731 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,190 I have nothing further. 732 00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,560 (CLEARING THROAT) 733 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,960 Prior to this trial, sir, 734 00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:23,740 had you ever heard of the All-Atlantic Insurance Company? 735 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,870 No. 736 00:33:24,930 --> 00:33:28,470 Then your father did not buy a policy from them, did he? 737 00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:30,610 He bought from Federali. 738 00:33:30,670 --> 00:33:32,120 So you would not have made a claim 739 00:33:32,170 --> 00:33:34,240 against the All-Atlantic Insurance Company, 740 00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:35,840 because you had no basis to believe 741 00:33:35,910 --> 00:33:37,650 that they owed you any money, is that right? 742 00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:38,750 Objection. 743 00:33:38,810 --> 00:33:40,850 The question calls for a legal conclusion. 744 00:33:40,910 --> 00:33:43,090 Judge, it is the People's theory 745 00:33:43,150 --> 00:33:44,790 that my clients stole a book 746 00:33:44,850 --> 00:33:47,960 to prevent this man and others like him from claiming their insurance. 747 00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:49,470 I'd like a chance to find out whether 748 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,060 he thinks my clients owed him any money in the first place. 749 00:33:53,130 --> 00:33:56,570 Do you think these men owe you anything, Mr. Radzanower? 750 00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:01,640 I think these men should close their eyes 751 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,980 and see my sister. 752 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:08,580 See my sister as a little girl she was once, 753 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,990 and a woman she should have been. 754 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,820 Then I want them to open their eyes 755 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:20,860 and tell me if they think they owe me anything. 756 00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:28,130 My father showed me a book. 757 00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:30,600 He told me he'd kept a record of all the insurance policies 758 00:34:30,660 --> 00:34:34,240 he sold during the war, so he wouldn't be cheated out of his commissions. 759 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:35,910 What sort of a record was this? 760 00:34:35,970 --> 00:34:39,140 Names, dates, policy numbers, places. 761 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,250 What places? 762 00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:46,290 Warsaw, Lodz, Vienna, Prague. 763 00:34:47,150 --> 00:34:48,790 How many policies were there? 764 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,920 Maybe a thousand. Maybe more. 765 00:34:55,660 --> 00:34:57,290 Nothing further. 766 00:34:59,930 --> 00:35:02,840 You didn't have a very good relationship with your father, 767 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:04,770 did you, Mr. Grimaldi? 768 00:35:04,830 --> 00:35:05,900 No. 769 00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:07,640 In fact, you hated the man. 770 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:10,480 I loved my father. I hated what he'd done. 771 00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:12,450 You mean, like, selling those policies. 772 00:35:12,510 --> 00:35:14,350 And having kept them secret, yes. 773 00:35:14,410 --> 00:35:15,580 I see. 774 00:35:16,580 --> 00:35:20,790 Well, tell us, when did you find out about the book? 775 00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:23,360 About 10 years ago. 776 00:35:23,420 --> 00:35:24,690 Ten years? 777 00:35:24,750 --> 00:35:26,730 Tell anybody, Mr. Grimaldi? 778 00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:30,090 No. 779 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:33,430 Like father, like son. Objection. 780 00:35:33,490 --> 00:35:36,100 Isn't it a fact that he only reason you're coming forward now 781 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,160 with this fiction about a book 782 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:40,040 is that you were offered a plea bargain? 783 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:42,340 A plea bargain for the murder of your own father. 784 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,440 Objection. 785 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:44,910 I wasn't offered a plea bargain. 786 00:35:44,970 --> 00:35:46,210 JUDGE: Sustained. 787 00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:47,880 Did you murder your father? 788 00:35:48,110 --> 00:35:50,490 Mr. Grimaldi, I have to warn you, 789 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,020 you have the right not to answer under the Fifth Amendment. 790 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,990 Judge, let me talk to my client. 791 00:35:55,050 --> 00:35:57,430 I don't need to talk to my lawyer. 792 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,260 The record reflects counsel refused. 793 00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:07,100 I shot him. 794 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:11,270 GOLD: And the whole thing about this book was a scam, wasn't it? 795 00:36:11,330 --> 00:36:12,440 JORDAN: No. 796 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,950 A scam to save your father, and now to save you. 797 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,840 That is a lie. GOLD: There never was a book. 798 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,280 There was. There was a book. 799 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,080 And you're right. 800 00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:28,160 I should have said something a long time ago. 801 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,750 GOLD: But you didn't, did you? 802 00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:35,630 When he told me, told me what it was, 803 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,090 I begged him to turn it in. 804 00:36:41,860 --> 00:36:43,810 But he wouldn't listen. 805 00:36:44,330 --> 00:36:46,000 My father never listened. 806 00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:48,880 GOLD: So it's only now, when you're facing a murder charge 807 00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:51,140 that you decide to come forward, is that it? 808 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,680 My father called me a few weeks ago 809 00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:54,880 and told me he'd been subpoenaed. 810 00:36:54,940 --> 00:36:56,250 He wanted to make sure I didn't say anything 811 00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:58,350 to anybody about the book. 812 00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:00,190 He told me he was going to sell it. 813 00:37:00,250 --> 00:37:01,350 To them. 814 00:37:01,410 --> 00:37:03,420 He even offered me money. 815 00:37:03,650 --> 00:37:04,690 For my children, he said. 816 00:37:04,750 --> 00:37:06,630 Object as non-responsive. 817 00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:08,100 Overruled. 818 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,270 You can finish your answer, sir. 819 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,240 When he came out of the bank, I was waiting for him. 820 00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:17,800 I had the gun. 821 00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:20,270 But I had to stop him. 822 00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:23,250 When he saw it, he became enraged. 823 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:24,980 He reached for it. 824 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:27,180 It went off. 825 00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:33,190 He just looked at me 826 00:37:35,850 --> 00:37:37,800 and then he walked away. 827 00:37:41,590 --> 00:37:43,300 If my father had sold that book 828 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,800 and I had done nothing to stop him, 829 00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:50,100 I would have been lost forever. 830 00:37:56,370 --> 00:37:59,480 Even I have to admit it's pretty hard to blame him. 831 00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:01,480 Even harder to figure how to punish him. 832 00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:03,210 Can I talk to you? 833 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:07,920 You shouldn't do that without your lawyer, Mr. Bresler. 834 00:38:07,980 --> 00:38:09,260 I am a lawyer, Mr. McCoy. 835 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,020 I know what I'm doing. 836 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,560 You won't be able to change your mind. 837 00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:16,100 I just watched someone's son ruin his life 838 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,690 over the shame of his father's acts. 839 00:38:20,330 --> 00:38:22,140 I have a son myself. 840 00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,430 BRESLER: I'd found out what we'd done in '92. 841 00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:28,900 Hamilton Stewart had been the Director 842 00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:32,380 of All-Atlantic's European Operations during the war. 843 00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:34,720 He'd just read something about a Jewish family 844 00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:37,280 suing a Swiss bank and its director. 845 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:40,450 He was afraid something like that could happen to us. 846 00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:42,930 He wanted to know what our liability was. 847 00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:44,760 You mean, his liability. 848 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:45,960 Yes. 849 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:47,190 What did you tell him? 850 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:51,700 That both he and the company had considerable exposure. 851 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:55,130 If those policies could ever be proven to exist. 852 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:57,770 ARTHUR: Enter the book. 853 00:38:58,330 --> 00:39:01,340 When Peter got the subpoena, he called Stewart. 854 00:39:01,430 --> 00:39:03,570 Told him he was going to turn the book over to the Italians 855 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,010 unless he was paid $2 million. 856 00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:06,810 Why not pay? 857 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:10,620 There's no way to hide a payment like that. 858 00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:15,790 That's when the decision was made to obtain the book. 859 00:39:15,850 --> 00:39:17,730 You mean, to steal it. 860 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,290 I was told to tell Peter we had the money, 861 00:39:21,350 --> 00:39:23,130 and that he should bring the book to my office. 862 00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:26,660 Burton would be waiting for him when he came out of the bank. 863 00:39:27,060 --> 00:39:28,870 Where's the book now? 864 00:39:32,770 --> 00:39:36,680 Burton gave it to me and I gave it to Hamilton Stewart. 865 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,280 I know what I did was a terrible thing. 866 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:45,190 Your day of reckoning isn't today. 867 00:39:46,610 --> 00:39:48,220 Put Stewart in jail. 868 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,030 At no time did lever order anyone 869 00:39:56,090 --> 00:39:59,400 to participate in a robbery, 870 00:40:00,830 --> 00:40:04,170 nor did I ever try to purchase any book. 871 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,210 And the testimony we heard from Alan Bresler that you did? 872 00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:09,440 STEWART: Complete fabrication. 873 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:13,280 GOLD: So, you also deny any effort by you or your company 874 00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:15,220 to prevent Holocaust victims 875 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,520 from collecting on their legitimate insurance policies? 876 00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:22,460 Of course I do. Our hearts go out to any victim of war. 877 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,990 But All-Atlantic is a publicly traded company, 878 00:40:27,450 --> 00:40:31,230 and as such it has an obligation to its shareholders. 879 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:36,140 I simply can't turn it into a charity when it suits us. 880 00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:39,630 Thank you, sir. 881 00:40:44,170 --> 00:40:46,950 Did your hearts also go out to them 882 00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:50,580 when your subsidiary was selling them life insurance, 883 00:40:51,110 --> 00:40:53,250 knowing they had no chance of ever collecting? 884 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,920 That was never done. 885 00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:58,130 Wasn't it? 886 00:40:58,990 --> 00:41:01,900 In 1932, Federali Insurance was writing 887 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,100 about a million dollars a year in life insurance. 888 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,870 By 1942, that number increased 10 times over. 889 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:13,340 How do you suppose that happened, Mr. Stewart? 890 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,500 You're talking about a long time ago. 891 00:41:15,570 --> 00:41:17,840 Don't tell us you've forgotten the details 892 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:20,850 that made your career at All-Atlantic. 893 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,050 You were able to sell those policies 894 00:41:24,210 --> 00:41:26,820 because of the persecution of Jewish families. Isn't that what happened? 895 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,620 I didn't know anything about that. 896 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,250 Didn't know? 897 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,370 You were All-Atlantic's Director 898 00:41:35,420 --> 00:41:38,830 for Eastern European Operations in 1938, weren't you? 899 00:41:38,890 --> 00:41:40,340 Yes. And Federali 900 00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:43,460 and its salesmen were reporting directly to you, weren't they? 901 00:41:43,530 --> 00:41:45,770 There were rumors, that's all. 902 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:48,210 Unsubstantiated rumors. 903 00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:50,410 The numbers don't lie, Mr. Stewart. 904 00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:53,610 Are you telling us that you suspected nothing? 905 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:55,950 You make it sound like we were the only ones. 906 00:41:56,010 --> 00:41:57,350 We weren't. 907 00:41:57,410 --> 00:41:59,320 American car companies, 908 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:00,590 banks, 909 00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:03,020 airplane manufacturers. 910 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,760 We were all doing business with Germany. 911 00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:09,100 My God, our own State Department 912 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,470 refused entry to these people 913 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,800 based on the same information we had. 914 00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:16,670 It was just business. 915 00:42:16,730 --> 00:42:19,010 Yes. Good business. 916 00:42:20,330 --> 00:42:23,140 So good, you rewarded Peter Grimaldi 917 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:24,720 with a job at the parent company 918 00:42:24,770 --> 00:42:26,510 the minute he stepped off the boat, didn't you? 919 00:42:26,570 --> 00:42:29,420 Peter had produced for us in Europe. 920 00:42:34,210 --> 00:42:37,820 Pretty risky proposition for an insurance company 921 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,630 to sell life insurance during wartime, isn't it, Mr. Stewart? 922 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:43,330 I suppose. 923 00:42:43,390 --> 00:42:46,460 Because war raises the risk of death, isn't that right? 924 00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:47,600 Yes. 925 00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:51,340 And death is certainly not good business 926 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,900 for a life insurance company, is it? 927 00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:53,970 No. 928 00:42:54,030 --> 00:42:57,570 But All-Atlantic couldn't sell policies fast enough, could it? 929 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,280 Because you knew the people you were selling to 930 00:43:00,340 --> 00:43:02,790 had no hope of ever collecting. 931 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,840 No hope of ever presenting a death certificate. 932 00:43:04,910 --> 00:43:05,950 Objection. 933 00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:07,150 Maybe they should have brought 934 00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:09,490 their parents' ashes in a bag to you. 935 00:43:09,550 --> 00:43:10,890 Mr. McCoy. 936 00:43:11,020 --> 00:43:15,330 Millions of dollars being made in the sale of life insurance, 937 00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:18,340 and yet, after over 50 years, 938 00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:20,670 not a single policy ever paid. 939 00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:26,140 What do you suppose happened 940 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,580 to all those people, Mr. Stewart? 941 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,640 I have no idea. 942 00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:33,650 Don't tell us you didn't know. 943 00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:37,590 The fact of the matter is, you counted on it. 944 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,400 The book for probation. 945 00:43:53,290 --> 00:43:54,970 That's your proposition? 946 00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:56,510 STEWART: Did you know that Federali 947 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,510 was originally founded by a Jewish family? 948 00:43:59,570 --> 00:44:01,570 They were doing it to their own people. 949 00:44:01,630 --> 00:44:04,770 Mr. McCoy, that book can ease a lot of financial pain. 950 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,880 I won't let your client use his company's money 951 00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:10,080 to pay his debt to society. 952 00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:13,320 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a closing argument to write. 953 00:44:17,550 --> 00:44:19,360 What can I get for the book? 954 00:44:20,090 --> 00:44:21,460 Four to twelve. 955 00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:30,170 And I want a written agreement waiving your right 956 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:33,340 to contest extradition to Italy if they want you there. 957 00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:47,050 JACK: Turned out to be the only bargaining chip they had. 958 00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:50,920 Insurance for the insurance men. 959 00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:54,420 Still, it's scary to think that without that book, 960 00:44:54,490 --> 00:44:57,400 they could have claimed none of it was real. 961 00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:01,030 It wasn't the book that made it real.